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What Happens When You Get Into a Fight With Me by Clonedelta4 What Happens When You Get Into a Fight With Me by Clonedelta4
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So there's this guy I found on DA, and he seemed decent. I found one of his journals was about how Sonic and Amy were in fact a couple, like canon/official. I checked out his points, and most of them were either flawed, opinionated, or just repetitive. I decided to NICELY, (take note of the nicely because I don't bash people for having different opinions) brought up points of why Sonic and Amy cannot be a couple officially.

Here's basically what I said:

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First off, I was complimenting him on his persistence with finding evidence that supports his ship. I kindly then explained why SonAmy is not a canon couple, considering that he doesn't seem to understand the word "canon". Now, I didn't simply just bash SonAmy. I explained why SEGA never wanted to do that because there would be an uproar from the butthurt fans that support other ships. It's the harsh truth. I even explained why SonSal isn't canon, which I ship the SHIT out of. I made sure I looked at both sides, considering my status. I also said that we ship couples because we think they look cute, not because we're forcing it to be canon.

He then proceeded to insult Sally by saying how "she isn't a real character" simply because Sonic Team didn't make her. And that "Amy's sole purpose is to be Sonic's GF". I proceeded to retort with that if Amy's sole purpose was to be Sonic's girlfriend, it would be so detrimental to her character because it would make it seem like females are mindless when they are obsessed about a boy. She has a bigger purpose than that. She gives females a strong identity in the games.

He is so set in his ways, however. He kept stating the same points again and again, about how Sally isn't real, SonSal isn't real, the comics and SatAM aren't real because Sonic Team didn't make it. I then replied with a strong comparison:
Call of Duty's main developer is Activision, but it now has three sub-developers: Infinity Ward, Treyarch, and Sledgehammer Games. Infinity Ward was first, so OBVIOUSLY only Infinity Ward's characters are canon because it was the first developer to work on CoD, according to his logic. I asked if Alex Mason, Frank Woods and a lot of other CoD BO characters weren't real simply because they weren't made by IW. OH! And I also said that all of Sonic Boom wasn't made by Sonic Team, so EVERYTHING coming from that isn't truly SEGA according to his logic.

I also didn't want to say this, because I love Amy as a character, but he made me go there: After he insulted Sally AGAIN about not being a real character made by SEGA, I told him that Amy's true roots are from a lousy fanfiction based off of similarities to the Sonic series and that SEGA simply took the character, changed a few details and called it theirs. So Sally is just as much of a SEGA character as Amy is.

That's when he decided to be a coward and hide my comments.
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That's where this image comes in.
I posted this image because he hid all of the comments I have posted here.

EDIT: sta.sh/03xyhs75hit
Here's part 2 of the argument.

What's the lesson we learned today, kids? Don't piss me off by offending characters I like or I will not let up.
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:iconkaiineko07:
KaiiNeko07 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hallelujah for this account!!!
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconohstopityouplz:
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:iconkaiineko07:
KaiiNeko07 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
XDD
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:iconaleksandae:
Aleksandae Featured By Owner Edited Nov 14, 2014
yoshiwii1 is just  a troll he know amy is not created by sonic team and sega
she was created by a manga making person
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:iconremradioheadfan96:
REMRadioheadfan96 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yoshi's a lot cause. Sorry you had to go through his abuse.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He really is. Don't be sorry. There really wasn't any abuse towards me. The only abuse was knowing how flawed his arguments are. Oh, and knowing that he wants to marry Amy.
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:iconremradioheadfan96:
REMRadioheadfan96 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed. He's a lost cause.
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:iconsugilita:
sugilita Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014
Sonamy is not canon because is obvious that Amy's crush on Sonic is unrequited,he don't like her in that way,this is blatantly obvious.
And do you like Manic the hedgehog?I'm just curious.:) (Smile) 
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly! That's what I said!

He's okay. I don't love him, but I don't hate him.
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:iconsugilita:
sugilita Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014
Do you watched that video were the creators were talking about Amy Rose?(this video is the biggest excuse used by YoshiWii1)

Because it was a bit hard to understand what they were saying because that one girl was talking so loud.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never did, but I know what was said in the video.

There's that and this guy takes the word "INTENDED" way to seriously. Amy's creation was INTENDED to be Sonic's GF, but they decided against it and went with the joke of her being over obsessed with Sonic, and him being creeped out by her. Nothing else!!!
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:iconrockethehedgehog:
Rockethehedgehog Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Student Artist
Thank you, you owned him ;)
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha you're welcome! When someone's a hypocrite and is insulting to SEGA CANON characters, I will not let up. Jerks like him don't deserve to be gone easy on.
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:iconrockethehedgehog:
Rockethehedgehog Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Student Artist
XD yep :)
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:iconfirewitch25:
FireWitch25 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student General Artist
OMG! Too many arguments these days! How long have these shipping wars been going on??? Can't people like what they want to like without being harassed??? Though, it is fun to read at times xD
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
RIGHT??? I wish people would care about other people's likes and disregard the fact of whether it's canon or not.
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:iconfirewitch25:
FireWitch25 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Student General Artist
Yeah, plus, what's the fun in fandom if a particular couple is canon etc, etc.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It really kills off a lot of the fun.
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:iconfirewitch25:
FireWitch25 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Student General Artist
So true. If no couples are canon, everyone's happy. If a specific couple is canon, let's say all hell would break loose
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's my exact reasoning! SEGA knows there will be an uproar so that's why it isn't canon!
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:iconfirewitch25:
FireWitch25 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Student General Artist
Yes plus they would lose fans and customers. It would be a big downfall for their company!
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly! Which is why I'm glad they're not going through with having couples. It'll kill the action.
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:iconentesi:
Entesi Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh, I know exactly who this is... He likes to make a fuss over nothing, doesn't he?
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He really does. And he's a hypocrite about it, too.
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:iconentesi:
Entesi Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeeup.
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Guess what? comments.deviantart.com/4/2280… Just made me lol'd.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It just got even more interesting.

I basically face-desked after I saw what these guys were saying. I didn't know that they had mental disabilities, and they're acting as if I'm out to get them SIMPLY because they're that way. HOW STUPID CAN THEY BE? I simply stated why they're not a canon couple! Is that so horrible??? They keep getting these delusional ideas of stuff I never said, and were trying to put stuff I said against me!
Did I insult him? No. Did I insult Amy or SonAmy? No. Did I say SonSal was better? No. I don't get why he was so butthurt about this whole thing... And he says I'm a fan brat. I laughed at that.
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SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014
By the way he comment, he's pretty much a fanbrat.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He really is. He's the one giving this fandom a bad name. I stated facts, he gave me unproven speculation, insults, and hiding my comments when I won.
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014
Definitely. Shame I can't comment because he blocked me.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You too??? XD

He fully blocked me because I told him the truth.
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014
Wow. That's pathetic.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It really is. I hope he sees this because he needs to know how immature he is.
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FancySallyAcorn Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Holy cow!
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Ikr?
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:iconfancysallyacorn:
FancySallyAcorn Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yup. Seriously! He called some a "prick" be-hide someone's back for not liking SonAmy. And Sally is a official
SEGA character. She's only used in the comics, there is a rumor that's she is going to be in the Sonic Boom TV show.
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SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
I just lol'd at his idiotic outburst. Like say it right in front of us instead of being a wimp. Lets hope she is, although I'm not going to watch it.
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FancySallyAcorn Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, XD. Agreed.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Same XD

I'm done with him. He can believe what he wants. Even if it is horribly wrong.
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Me too.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, yeah. He's also a broken record player. I never once wrote in all caps or cussed him out and he keeps saying that. So it's another reason to laugh at him.
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:iconsonicteam765:
SonicTeam765 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Yep.
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:iconaurora-asb:
Aurora-ASB Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014  Student
He blocked me for making one comment on how he is wrong about Sally
and that she is cannon just in the comics though because there is a malti-verse.
SEGA works with Archie to make the comics and even have a say what happens.
I think he's just mad because Sonally was cannon and did happen, twice.
Three times if you count the show.
Where Sonamy has never been cannon.
But you are right that fans shouldn't be so focused on who is with who.
If that was the case I'd always be mad because Sonic is never going to get with Shadow
or Shadow will never be with Scourge ( Yeah, I like that kind of thing but I'm also a Sonally fan.)
He also bothered a few of my friends, and some of their friends because none of us are Sonamy fans.
Didn't bother me when I tried to talk to him nicely but he blocks me and go after people that talk to me.
So, I really do not like this guy.
Only reason I found this by the way was because I was checking his profile and someone posted this saying and I quote
"Hey Yoshi, problem here! Guess what this little prick did."
Fanbrats... oi.
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Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
YEah, he's a pretty bad butthurt fan. I never once insulted anything he likes or overly praise anything I like. I simply stated why SonAmy isn't canon. Is that so horrible?
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Aurora-ASB Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student
No, it's not that horrible.
What is horrible is how he acts and treats anyone
that doesn't see things his way.
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:iconclonedelta4:
Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Right!
Yeah, that's the thing. He's all *in a girly fanbrat voice*"Oh! You should totally love Amy because Sonic OBVIOUSLY likes her!" and then he proceeds to make a fanfiction with all of the Freedom Fighters as the villains. I never once insulted Amy and he's all "Oh you're such a fanbrat who's insulting me and stuffz." And he proceeds to bash on Sally for not being a "Real SEGA character" XP
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Aurora-ASB Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student
Just like that.
I hate Amy in the games but I love her in the comics.
The comics are cannon despite what the fan brats say...
though lately when they say they are happy Sally isn't in a game I point out she was.
Sonic Spinball.
XD
I don't understand why they have to get hooked on who is with who anyways.
A lot of the pairings I support I know will never be cannon and I never get annoyed about it.
Least I haven't been since I was 12.
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Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They are! They're just a separate canon. There are so many different canons in the SU, there's no telling which one is the "right" one.

Haha, I do, too. But Mr. OverlyObsessedWithAmy over here says Spinball isn't canon because Sonic Team didn't make it.

I don't either. I ship the crap out of Sonic and Sally, but I don't fucking worship it and say I wanna marry someone like Sally. That's just weird.
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Aurora-ASB Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student
Yeah.. that is weird.
And I'm sure Sonic Team worked on Sonic Spinball...
could be wrong but as long as it is SEGA it is cannon.
And he loves Sonic X but that isn't Team Sonic either... gods he is stupid.
I'm sorry but he is!
He's trying to pick and choice what is canon and what is not but it doesn't work that way.
I do love Sally, I really do but not to the point I want to marry her and I hate seeing people rip on her
because she got with Sonic when the person they wanted him to be with didn't.
Fanbrats! Oi!
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Clonedelta4 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I pointed that to him as well! So all of his Sonic X points were invalid according to his dumb logic.
Don't be sorry! He really is though!
Yeah, only the stuff he likes and supports is "canon" in his eyes. Like, are you that stupid to realize the flaws in your argument???
Yeah! Same here! I loathe it because she's a fantastic character and a great friend for Sonic and the crew.

Facepalm to people like Yoshi and everyone like him.
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